Asus 7950 GT Aiuto Va sempre a scatti

Aperto da Giamba, 23 Dicembre 2006, 00:48:08

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Max_R

Io vorrei sentire pure le temperature :)

maverick85


Giamba

Eccomi, allora ho cambiato piastra madre ho una gigabite ga945gl piu ho mantato 2 gb di ram ddr II 533 ma la situazione è sempre la stessa, i driver sono l'ultima versione dal sito nvidia. aiutatemi che devo fare.........

Italia 1

hai già messo i driver su "max prestazioni", sì ?

PC wallet TR1950x-7970-16GB DDR4 2133 - PC soffitta Ryzen9 5950x-6900xt-32GB DDR4 3000 - PC camera Ryzen9 3900x-6900xt-32GB DDR4 3000

Giamba

da vove li devo mettere? aiuto qualcuno a messanger per fare dell prove in diretta?

Giamba

attivatemi su messanger giamba@neotekonline.it vi aspetto aiutatemi non so come fare a uscire da questa situazione

Giamba

Ecco i nuovi risultati 3d mark 06:
Main Test Results
 
3DMark Score 2196 3DMarks
 
SM 2.0 Score 1032 Marks
 
SM 3.0 Score 1333 Marks
 
CPU Score 357 Marks
 


Detailed Test Results

 
Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 9.512 FPS
 
2 - Firefly Forest 7.69 FPS
 

 
CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 0.113 FPS
 
CPU2 - Red Valley 0.181 FPS
 

 
HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 16.334 FPS
 
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 10.327 FPS


e sotto la nuova configurazione del mio pc:

CPU Info
Physical Processors   1      
 Logical Processors   2      
 
CPU 1/1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Manufacturer   Intel    
Family   Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz    
Architecture   64-bit    
Internal Clock   3.2 GHz      
 Internal Clock Maximum   3.2 GHz      
External Clock   200.0 MHz      
Socket Designation   Socket 775    
Upgrade   Socket 478    
 MultiCore   1 Processor Core    
HyperThreadingTechnology   Available - 2 HTT Processors per Core    
Capabilities   MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, PAE, NX    
Version   Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz    
 Caches
Level 1    16 KB      
Level 2    2 MB      
 
 

DirectX Info
Version   9.0c    
 Long Version   4.09.00.0904    
 

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DirectDraw
Version   5.03.2600.2180    
 Primary Device   NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT    
 Linked Display Adapters   false    
 
Display Device 1/1
NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT        Driver 6.14.10.9371
 
Description   NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT    
Manufacturer   NVIDIA    
Total Local Video Memory   512 MB      
Total Local Texture Memory   754 MB      
AGP Aperture Size   0 B      
Driver File   nv4_disp.dll    
Driver Version   6.14.10.9371    
Driver Date   10-22-2006    
Driver WHQL Certified   true    
Max Texture Width   4096.000496000001 px    
Max Texture Height   4096.000496000001 px    
Max User Clipping Planes   6      
 Max Active Hardware Lights   8      
Max Texture Blending Stages   8      
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass   8      
Vertex Shader Version   3.0    
Pixel Shader Version   3.0    
Max Vertex Blend Matrices   0      
Max Texture Coordinates   8      
VGA Memory Clock   738.0 MHz      
VGA Core Clock   624.9 MHz      
Max VGA Memory Clock   0.0 Hz    
Max VGA Core Clock   0.0 Hz    
 PCI
Name   NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT    
Vendor ID   0x10de    
Device ID   0x0295    
SubSystem ID   0x82251043    
Revision ID   0x00a1    

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Bus
Type   PCI Express    
Revision   1.0    
Enabled   true    
Rate   16      
Sideband Addressing   Not Supported    
Fast Write   Not Supported    

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Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit A [8]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]
 
Capabilities
AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting, Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending, Subtractive Texture Blending, Environmental Bump Mapping, Environmental Bump Mapping With Luminance, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring, Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected Textures, Volume Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures, Two Sided Stencil Test, Mipmapped Volume Textures, Mipmapped Cube Textures, Texture Border Color, Spherical Mapping, Automatic Mipmap Generation, Hardware Rasterization, Shading, Transform and Lighting, Scissor Test, Legacy Depth Bias

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DirectShow
Version   9.0c    
 Long Version   4.09.00.0904    
 
Registered DirectShow Filters  
.RAM file Parser  
AC3 Parser Filter  
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder  
ACM Wrapper  
ASF ACM Handler  
ASF DIB Handler  
ASF DJPEG Handler  
ASF ICM Handler  
ASF JPEG Handler  
ASF URL Handler  
ASF embedded stuff Handler  
ASX file Parser  
ASX v.2 file Parser  
AVI Decompressor  
AVI Draw  
AVI Splitter  
AVI/WAV File Source  
Color Space Converter  
DV Muxer  
DV Splitter  
DV Video Decoder  
Decrypt/Tag  
Default DirectSound Device  
Default MidiOut Device  
 DivX Decoder Filter  
DivX Demux  
DivX Subtitle Decoder  
File Source (Async.)  
File Source (Netshow URL)  
File Source (URL)  
File stream renderer  
IVF source filter  
Indeo audio software  
Indeo video 4.4 Decompression Filter  
Indeo video 5.10 Decompression Filter  
Internal Script Command Renderer  
Line 21 Decoder  
Line 21 Decoder 2  
Lyric Parser  
MIDI Parser  
MJPEG Decompressor  
MPEG Audio Decoder  
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder  
MPEG Video Decoder  
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer  
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables  
MPEG-2 Splitter  
MPEG-I Stream Splitter  
 Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor  
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor  
Multi-file Parser  
NSC file Parser  
Overlay Mixer2  
QT Decompressor  
QuickTime Movie Parser  
SAMI (CC) Parser  
VBI Surface Allocator  
VGA 16 Color Ditherer  
Video Port Manager  
Video Renderer  
WM ASF Reader  
WM ASF Writer  
WST Decoder  
Wave Parser  
Windows Media Audio Decoder  
Windows Media Multiplexer  
Windows Media Pad VU Data Grabber  
Windows Media Update Filter  
Windows Media Video Decoder  
Windows Media source filter  
XML Playlist  
XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder  
 

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DirectSound
Version   5.3.2600.2180    
Speaker Configuration   Stereo    
 Speaker Geometry   Wide    
Primary Device   Realtek HD Audio output    
 
Sound Device 1/1
Realtek High Definition Audio        Driver 5.10.0.5257
 
Description   Realtek HD Audio output    
Manufacturer   Realtek    
Driver File   RtkHDAud.sys    
Driver Version   5.10.0.5257    
Driver Date   5-16-2006    
 Driver WHQL Certified   true    
Max Supported 3D Hardware Sounds   33      
HD Audio Support   true    
EAX Support   Supported    
 PCI
Name   Realtek High Definition Audio    
Vendor ID   0x0000    
Device ID   0x0000    
SubSystem ID   0x00000000    
Revision ID   0x0000    
 
Capabilities
Continuous Rate, Primary Buffer with 16-bit Samples, Primary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Monophonic Primary Buffers, Stereo Primary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 16-bit Samples, Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Hardware-mixed Monophonic Secondary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Stereo Secondary Buffers
 

Memory Info
Total Physical Memory   2.00 GB      
Free Physical Memory   1.62 GB      
 Total Pagefile Memory   3.35 GB      
Free Pagefile Memory   3.13 GB      
 
Memory Array 1/1
Max Module Capacity   4 MB      
Location   System Board    
 Use   System    
Supported Speeds   -      
 Supported Types   -      
Supported Voltages   -      
 
Memory Slot 1/4
Installed Enabled Size   1.00 GB      
Form Factor   DIMM    
Frequency   66.0 MHz      
Slot   A0 [Bank0/1]    
Manufacturer   None    
Type Details   -      
Enabled Size   1.00 GB      
Total Bit Width   64 b    
Data Bit Width   64 b    
 Memory Slot 2/4
Installed Enabled Size   0 B      
Form Factor   DIMM    
Frequency   0.0 Hz    
Slot   A1 [Bank2/3]    
Manufacturer   None    
Type Details   -      
Enabled Size   0 B      
Total Bit Width   0 b    
Data Bit Width   0 b    
 Memory Slot 3/4
Installed Enabled Size   1.00 GB      
Form Factor   DIMM    
Frequency   66.0 MHz      
Slot   A2 [Bank4/5]    
Manufacturer   None    
Type Details   -      
Enabled Size   1.00 GB      
Total Bit Width   64 b    
Data Bit Width   64 b    
 Memory Slot 4/4
Installed Enabled Size   0 B      
Form Factor   DIMM    
Frequency   0.0 Hz    
Slot   A3 [Bank6/7]    
Manufacturer   None    
Type Details   -      
Enabled Size   0 B      
Total Bit Width   0 b    
Data Bit Width   0 b    
 
 
 

Motherboard Info
Supported Slot Types   ISA, PCI, AGP, PCI Express    
Manufacturer   Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.    
Model   945PL-S3    
Version   x.x    
BIOS Vendor   Award Software International, Inc.    
BIOS Version   F1    
BIOS Release Date   07/11/2006    
BIOS Properties   Plug and Play, Flash    
 AGP
Available Rate   0x00000000    
Selected Rate   0x00000000    
Aperture Size   256 MB      
Sideband Addressing   Not Supported    
Fast Write   Not Supported    
 
PCI Devices  
NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT
Manufacturer   NVIDIA    
Location   Bus PCI 1, periferica 0, funzione 0    

 Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Manufacturer   Realtek Semiconductor Corp.    
Location   Bus PCI 3, periferica 0, funzione 0    

 
Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 30, funzione 0    

 Intel(R) 945G/P Processor to I/O Controller - 2770
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 0, funzione 0    

 
Intel(R) 945G/P PCI Express Root Port - 2771
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 1, funzione 0    

 Intel(R) 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 31, funzione 0    

 
Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 31, funzione 2    

 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 29, funzione 0    

 
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 29, funzione 1    

 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 29, funzione 2    

 
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 29, funzione 3    

 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 29, funzione 7    

 
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 28, funzione 0    

 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D6
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 28, funzione 3    

 
Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
Manufacturer   Microsoft    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 27, funzione 0    

 Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Manufacturer   Intel    
Location   Bus PCI 0, periferica 31, funzione 3    

 
Card Slots  
PCI Slot
Order   1      
Designation   PCI    
Type   PCI    
Characteristics   5.0V, 3.3V, PME Signal, SMBus Signal    
Data Bus Width   32 b    
Details   Available, Long    
IRQ   0      

 PCI Slot
Order   2      
Designation   PCI    
Type   PCI    
Characteristics   5.0V, 3.3V, PME Signal, SMBus Signal    
Data Bus Width   32 b    
Details   Available, Long    
IRQ   0      

 PCI Slot
Order   3      
Designation   PCI    
Type   PCI    
Characteristics   5.0V, 3.3V, PME Signal, SMBus Signal    
Data Bus Width   32 b    
Details   Available, Long    
IRQ   0      

 
PCI Slot
Order   4      
Designation   PCI    
Type   PCI    
Characteristics   5.0V, 3.3V, PME Signal, SMBus Signal    
Data Bus Width   32 b    
Details   Available, Long    
IRQ   0      

       
System Devices  
Name   Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 Name   Intel(R) 945G/P Processor to I/O Controller - 2770    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 
Name   Intel(R) 945G/P PCI Express Root Port - 2771    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 Name   Intel(R) 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 
Name   Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 Name   Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D6    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 
Name   Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio    
Manufacturer   Microsoft    
 Name   Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA    
Manufacturer   Intel    
 
USB Devices  
Description   Hub principale USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Hub principale USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.2180    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Hub principale USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 
Description   Hub principale USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Hub principale USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.2180    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Periferica USB composita    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 
Description   5400 Series    
 Description   Supporto stampa USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Periferica di archiviazione di massa USB    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 
Description   Periferica USB Human Interface    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Human Interface Device    
 Description   Periferica USB composita    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Universal Serial Bus Controller    
 Description   Periferica USB Human Interface    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Human Interface Device    
 
Description   Periferica USB Human Interface    
Driver Date   7-1-2001    
Driver Version   5.1.2600.0    
Device Class   Human Interface Device    
       
FireWire Devices  

 

Monitor Info
Monitor 1/5
Name   Monitor Plug and Play    
Manufacturer   (Schermi standard)    
Max Width   1599.9997720000001 px    
Max Height   1199.9998569999998 px    
 Monitor 2/5
Name   Schermo predefinito    
Manufacturer   (Schermi standard)    
Max Width   0.000000000 px    
Max Height   0.000000000 px    
 Monitor 3/5
Name   Schermo predefinito    
Manufacturer   (Schermi standard)    
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Monitor 4/5
Name   Schermo predefinito    
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 Monitor 5/5
Name   Monitor Plug and Play    
Manufacturer   (Schermi standard)    
Max Width   1599.9997720000001 px    
Max Height   1199.9998569999998 px    
   
 

Operating System Info
Name   Microsoft Windows XP    
Version   5.1.2600    
PlatformId   2      
Service Pack   Service Pack 2 (v2.0)      
Suite   256      
Product Type   1      
Media Center   false    
Windows Environment   32-bit    
Locale   IT    
Desktop Width   1023.999916 px    
Desktop Height   767.999938965 px    
Desktop BPP   32 b    
Internet Explorer Version   62900.2180    
 DEP
Hardware Support   true    
Applications Protected   true    
Drivers Protected   true    
User Option   On for essential Windows programs and services only    
 
Open Processes  
Name   PID   Memory Usage
3DMark06.exe   1656    14 MB  
alg.exe   1464    3 MB  
csrss.exe   664    4 MB  
ctfmon.exe   1784    3 MB  
explorer.exe   1628    19 MB  
lsass.exe   744    1 MB  
msnmsgr.exe   1480    12 MB  
nvsvc32.exe   2008    4 MB  
RTHDCPL.EXE   1752    21 MB  
rundll32.exe   564    5 MB  
services.exe   732    3 MB  
smss.exe   616    388 KB  
spoolsv.exe   1356    4 MB  
svchost.exe   924    5 MB  
svchost.exe   988    4 MB  
svchost.exe   1076    25 MB  
svchost.exe   1196    3 MB  
svchost.exe   1232    7 MB  
svchost.exe   632    3 MB  
svchost.exe   1720    4 MB  
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System Idle Process   0    28 KB  
winlogon.exe   688    2 MB  
wmiprvse.exe   1960    5 MB  
wmiprvse.exe   1924    6 MB  
wscntfy.exe   1436    3 MB  
 
   Open Applications  
3DMark06
Windows Live Messenger
 

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C:      Hard Disk   48.83 GB    39.08 GB  
D:      Hard Disk   76.32 GB    13.09 GB  
E:      Hard Disk   141.09 GB    35.13 GB  
F:      CD-ROM   0 B    0 B  
G:      Floppy   0 B    0 B  
 
 
 

Storage Devices
Storage Device 1/4
Maxtor 6L200M0
Device Drive Type   Hard Disk    
Name   Maxtor 6L200M0    
Manufacturer   (unit disco standard)    
Model   Maxtor 6L200M0    
Vendor ID String   Maxtor 6    
Product ID String   Maxtor 6L200M0    
Product Revision String   BACE1G10    
 Serial Number   L4184E7G    
Interface Type   IDE    
Device Bus Type   SATA    
Capacity   189.92 GB      
Drive Letters   C:  E:      
CD Max Read Speed   0      
CD Read Capabilities   -      
 CD Write Capabilities   -      
DVD Read Capabilities   -      
DVD Write Capabilities   -      
SMART   Supported (disabled)    
Acoustic Management   Supported (enabled)    
 
Storage Device 2/4
Maxtor 6Y080L0
Device Drive Type   Hard Disk    
Name   Maxtor 6Y080L0    
Manufacturer   (unit disco standard)    
Model   Maxtor 6Y080L0    
Vendor ID String   Maxtor 6    
Product ID String   Maxtor 6Y080L0    
Product Revision String   YAR41VW0    
 Serial Number   Y3HHSGGE    
Interface Type   IDE    
Device Bus Type   ATA    
Capacity   76.33 GB      
Drive Letters   D:      
CD Max Read Speed   0      
CD Read Capabilities   -      
 CD Write Capabilities   -      
DVD Read Capabilities   -      
DVD Write Capabilities   -      
SMART   Supported (disabled)    
Acoustic Management   Supported (enabled)    
 
Storage Device 3/4

Device Drive Type   Hard Disk    
Name      
Manufacturer      
Model      
Vendor ID String   Lexmark    
Product ID String   USB Mass Storage    
 Product Revision String   200    
Interface Type      
Device Bus Type   USB    
Capacity   0 B      
CD Max Read Speed   0      
CD Read Capabilities   -      
 CD Write Capabilities   -      
DVD Read Capabilities   -      
DVD Write Capabilities   -      
SMART   Not Supported    
Acoustic Management   Not Supported    
 
Storage Device 4/4
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109
Device Drive Type   DVD    
Name   PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109    
Manufacturer   (Unit CD-ROM standard)    
Model   PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109    
Vendor ID String   PIONEER    
Product ID String   PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109    
Product Revision String   1.55    
 Serial Number   EBDL214568WL    
Interface Type      
Device Bus Type   ATA    
Capacity   0 B      
Drive Letters   F:      
CD Max Read Speed   0      
CD Read Capabilities   -      
 CD Write Capabilities   -      
DVD Read Capabilities   +R, -RW, +RW    
DVD Write Capabilities   -R, +R, -RW, +RW    
SMART   Not Supported    
Acoustic Management   Not Supported    
 

AIUTATEMIIIIIIIIIIIIII


:)

Italia 1

fammi una cortesia, non mettere ogni volta che fai un test TUTTI i risultati, basta quello finale.
per mettere le massime prestazioni, basta che vai sulle proprietà dello schermo, (dove si cambia la risoluzione) premi sul pulsante "avanzate", scegli la scheda dove c'è scritto "Geforce 7950GT" e tra i parametri metti su "prestazioni elevate"



Comunque per me non è quello il problema, in quanto su 3dm03 dovresti fare un punteggio doppio o triplo (è 6368 il risultato finale, si ?)

I 2 moduli da 1 GB che hai installato, sono messi in dualchannel ? cioè, un modulo per ogni slot dello stesso colore

PC wallet TR1950x-7970-16GB DDR4 2133 - PC soffitta Ryzen9 5950x-6900xt-32GB DDR4 3000 - PC camera Ryzen9 3900x-6900xt-32GB DDR4 3000

Giamba

si ho messo i moduli negli slot delle stesso colore.
non è che il problema sta nella cpu che è lenta?

Max_R

La cpu non è affatto lenta nonostante la vecchiaia ;)