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     ICQ History Log For:    
           40559846  Max Pain
 Started on Sat Mar 29 17:16:04 2003
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Khana      29/03/20 15.25 Hi, I'm from Italy, member of 3dfxzone italian
                               forum and read your tread in tdhq about revenge.

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.36 *scratches head* er.... ok?

Khana      29/03/20 16.37 Well, i'd like to know what do you esactly now
                               about Revenge.

Khana      29/03/20 16.37 My previous post was just to check if you were
                               there

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.42 heh everything

Khana      29/03/20 16.43 Ok, seems like Semenec took part in a chat on our
                               IRC channel and told Revenge will never get out.
                               It WAS a good chip, but it is too late to produce
                               it. Is this true?

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.44 theres no financing

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.44 syed had all of it

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.44 but things came up

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.44 I got an e-mail bck from him

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.44 but I work today so it wont go up till evening 

Khana      29/03/20 16.45 So we have a project, a protorypr probably, and
                               less money than 3dfx?

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.46 less money? heh

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.46 I have $500

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.46 The rest of the Brood could muster up maybe $3000

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.46 Thats not even CLOSE to enough

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.47 We don't have the plans

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.47 syed does

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.47 so we couldnt even get funding.

Khana      29/03/20 16.47 I understand.

Khana      29/03/20 16.48 Do you have an Idea on the ammount of funding
                               needed to bring the project to see the light?

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.50 The amount for any project

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.50 It's an inexpensive project

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.50 We need the engineers

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.51 we need the plans from syed

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.51 I might.... MIGHT.... be able to have him help
                               us.

Khana      29/03/20 16.53 What about making a "joint venture" with all the
                               members of various 3dfx dedicated forum around
                               the world and start rising money?

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.53 Word would get out then

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.53 We've had problem enough keeping it quiet

Khana      29/03/20 16.54 Selling it to an existing chip builder factory?

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 Possibility

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 But then it'd be "Highest Bid Gets It"

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 and then nVidia steps in

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 gets it

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 never uses it

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 waste of something that would walk all over
                               anything they have

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 had 

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 or will have

Khana      29/03/20 16.55 Well, you can always say "no" ti nVidia.

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.55 true

Khana      29/03/20 16.56 ANd ask to someone who HAS teh interest in
                               producing it... like S3, or less, if you
                               understand what I mean...

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 yea

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 i do

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 but

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 we need to make sure they can make good drivers

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 or else the card is worthless

Khana      29/03/20 16.58 We got Amigamerlin for that :-)

Max Pain   29/03/20 16.58 hahah

Khana      29/03/20 16.59 Jokes apart, there are few very good people here
                               in 3dfxzone and there in 3dhq who know how to
                               compile really good dreivers, if they could work
                               as a team.

Khana      29/03/20 17.00 I don't think the problem should be software

Khana      29/03/20 17.05 Does a physical working  prototype exist?

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.06 Ask hank

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.06 he'll deny it

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.06 but there was a very very very very early
                               prototype

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.07 that was based on 3Dfx tech and not out killer
                               revision

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.07 254FPS in Q3 @ 1280 8xAA and 16AF

Khana      29/03/20 17.07 wow

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.07 That was a year ago

Khana      29/03/20 17.08 That's impressive!

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.08 Honestly, I have nothing to contribute to 3DHQ. I
                               don't know C, I don't know anything really. I was
                               just at the right place at the right time.

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.08 I just know everyhitng is all

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.08 It's stupid really ;|

Khana      29/03/20 17.09 They can't solve that kind of problem with C or
                               C++

Khana      29/03/20 17.09 They need a commercial manager

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.10 Well I know

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.10 Its just harder than it all sounds

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.10 since nVidia holds all of 3Dfxs stuff

Khana      29/03/20 17.10 so they could say it's stolen, you mean

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.11 yuea

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.12 syed siad befor he was already getting greif from
                               them

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.12 but told them to fuck off

Khana      29/03/20 17.12 :-D

Khana      29/03/20 17.12 great answer.

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.14 Well, I have to goto work now.

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.14 I wont be home for another 10hrs or so

Khana      29/03/20 17.15 Don't worry, I'll be sleeping probably for that
                               time. I will check 3dhq forum to sse if you post
                               anything

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.15 k

Max Pain   29/03/20 17.15 ttyl

Khana      29/03/20 17.15 later

